In this episode, Vusi Thembekwayo is joined by the brilliant Professor Lumumba for a bold and thought-provoking conversation that cuts to the heart of Africa’s destiny. Together, they unpack the urgent question: Does Africa have a plan for the world—or just one made for it?

From the overlooked Caribbean origins of Pan-Africanism to the strategic wisdom hidden in martial arts, this dialogue challenges inherited systems, reimagines governance, and calls for unity rooted in self-reliance. It’s more than a conversation—it’s a rallying cry for Africans to reclaim agency, resource their own futures, and design a continent that leads on its own terms.

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